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Mers at AAC who reportedly said of the reportedly impending move “don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
Very true words - but a general statement. To the specific question of moving to NY, there is no direct denial.

Reminington has cleared the way to do silencer development in NY. They may very well want to move AAC closer to home. Should such a move take place I'm sure there will be a mass exodus of the major players at AAC that will not move to NY, no way, no how. Should such a thing happen the Remington will be left with the AAC name alone. That may very well be what they intended all along.

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The major thrust of the law change was not so that Remington could build silencers in NY, it was so they could simply have them for T&E. Prior to the change, Remington had to get a letter from the military (not the police, the military) that specified the item they needed for a demonstration, when it would arrive, and when it would be leaving. This made difficult any cooperative effort between Remington NY and AAC.
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I was the one who asked him. Trust me when I say that comment was in direct response to the question about whether or not AAC was moving to NY.

Could Remington move some people and start a production line in NY to streamline military orders? Sure. But moving the entire operation would make no sense at all.
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I want to know how they made the correlation that letting go of Lynsey means AAC moves to New York.

I can play that game too, I lost a shoe last week, I'm going scuba diving. Snorkel! :roll:
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JohnnyC wrote:I want to know how they made the correlation that letting go of Lynsey means AAC moves to New York.
That is what I wrote elsewhere. Bloggers should just report facts not start rumors.
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JohnnyC wrote:I want to know how they made the correlation that letting go of Lynsey means AAC moves to New York.

I can play that game too, I lost a shoe last week, I'm going scuba diving. Snorkel! :roll:
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SilentMike wrote:The major thrust of the law change was not so that Remington could build silencers in NY, it was so they could simply have them for T&E. Prior to the change, Remington had to get a letter from the military (not the police, the military) that specified the item they needed for a demonstration, when it would arrive, and when it would be leaving. This made difficult any cooperative effort between Remington NY and AAC.
Remington is not doing anyone an favors keeping that plant there. I would put money on them being able to get massive incentives in another state if they moved that plant simply because of the current economy. Local politicians would bend over backwards to get a big factory in their town. People really only learn something well through pain, and money and jobs lost are a politicians "pain". Give them some pain, move to a 2nd amendment friendly state. There are people all over the world that that can only dream of amazing guns rights being an easy day trips drive away. Sure, moving a factory or HQ isn't cheap but companies do it every day without going out of business.

I just don't get people or companies who stay in commie states and support that level of constitutional destruction.
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I'm not saying it won't happen. I just take issue with Gear Scout trying to correlate one persons departure to moving the entire company to a commie state. It's just irresponsible reporting in my mind, would they issue a retraction if it turns out to be false?
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SilentMike wrote:With the exception of Jason, every single post in this thread is from the myopic position of the outside looking in. Yes, Kevin and Lynsey are gone. Despite their high profile, the two of them did not constitute the whole of AAC. The same talent pool of thinkers, dreamers, designers, and mad scientists that are responsible for 95% of all the AAC products you own and love, are all still in the house and working hard. AAC is an extremely succesful part of the FGI family. It would not make $ense to move the company or take any other action that would result in a loss of true talent.
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SilentMike wrote:With the exception of Jason, every single post in this thread is from the myopic position of the outside looking in. Yes, Kevin and Lynsey are gone. Despite their high profile, the two of them did not constitute the whole of AAC. The same talent pool of thinkers, dreamers, designers, and mad scientists that are responsible for 95% of all the AAC products you own and love, are all still in the house and working hard. AAC is an extremely succesful part of the FGI family. It would not make $ense to move the company or take any other action that would result in a loss of true talent.
Anyone else catch this? Trying not to read too much into it. (Emphasis mine)
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tctlrld wrote:
SilentMike wrote:With the exception of Jason, every single post in this thread is from the myopic position of the outside looking in. Yes, Kevin and Lynsey are gone. Despite their high profile, the two of them did not constitute the whole of AAC. The same talent pool of thinkers, dreamers, designers, and mad scientists that are responsible for 95% of all the AAC products you own and love, are all still in the house and working hard. AAC is an extremely succesful part of the FGI family. It would not make $ense to move the company or take any other action that would result in a loss of true talent.
Anyone else catch this? Trying not to read too much into it. (Emphasis mine)
I'm not sure who SilentMike is, but if he's senior staff at AAC, it reads a little like he just inherited a silencer company :D joking of course.
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I know Mike personally and can't see him implying anything negative towards Kevin and/or Lynsey nor does he have a pompous, arrogant attitude. Mike is one of the most laid back, humble guys I know.


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BookHound wrote:I know Mike personally and can't see him implying anything negative towards Kevin and/or Lynsey nor does he have a pompous, arrogant attitude. Mike is one of the most laid back, humble guys I know.


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Mike Smith is a great guy. Everyone I met/know at AAC is good people, and I wish them all the best.
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paco ramirez wrote:Mike Smith is a great guy. Everyone I met/know at AAC is good people, and I wish them all the best.
Didn't you post in your drawings thread that you were taking a job there? I thought I read you worked for AAC now?
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PM'd.
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paco ramirez wrote:PM'd.
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66427vette wrote:
paco ramirez wrote:PM'd.
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Sent to you too. Anyone else who's curious PM me. No big deal.
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Like I said before, AAC was more than the product. A lot more.

They've already cut "talent" for reasons unknown. It's a business in which it comes down to $'s.

They will do what they want. Either way, it will not be the AAC we knew and loved regardless of where they are located.

One piece at a time.

If they were smart, they would get out in front of this (and the rumor mill) and put the cards on the table IMO.

I wish all the best to those who remain. Good or bad, I'm sure there are people walking on pins and needles regardless of what they should say publicly.
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But look at Apple now.

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Man this sucks if it's true. I had an interview there last summer. Now I think I'm glad I didn't end up there. Sorry guys. It seemed like a very nice facility and very new, would be a shame for them to have to leave. I've always been proud of Georgia for having the political climate to foster a business like AAC and I was always proud of the guys at AAC for being here in Georgia. It just won't be the same if it say made in new york. Yuck
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Gear Scout has added to the article stating AAC is not moving to New York. I wouldnt worry about it.
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paco ramirez wrote:Gear Scout has added to the article stating AAC is not moving to New York. I wouldnt worry about it.

OK, Lets say there not moving to NY (they probably aren't) Why the massive shake up in upper management?
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OK, Lets say there not moving to NY (they probably aren't) Why the massive shake up in upper management?
That is something the public will never know.
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