For those who dont frequent 300blktalk, liberty came out with a new integral! Dave mentioned around 120 db's
http://www.libertycans.net/leonidas.html
MSRP INFORMATION
COMPLETE RIFLE (NO SIGHTS)...................................................................................................................$1850
UPPER/SUPPRESSOR ASSEMBLY ONLY (NO SIGHTS).......................................................................$1555
SUPPRESSOR ONLY (BUILT ON CUSTOMER SUPPLIED BARRELED UPPER).............................$725
Seems like a sweet little package.
New integral build from liberty 300blk
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New integral build from liberty 300blk
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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk
that's great, i just wish they didn't call it the Leonidas
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WOW......I want one of those too. Why does the process have to take sooooooo long?
I've gotta stop this habit.
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Buy a Liberty suppressor.
Their products are top notch and the CS is very good. I will be buying their can for the 300 BLK.
Their products are top notch and the CS is very good. I will be buying their can for the 300 BLK.
If it doesn't splatter, shatter, burst or explode, it's not worth shooting.
Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk
didn't noveske offer a .308 AR platform gun also called the leonidas?kaotic504 wrote:that's great, i just wish they didn't call it the Leonidas
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kaotic504 wrote:that's great, i just wish they didn't call it the Leonidas
I don't give a s--t what they call it, as long as it works, as long as it is quiet.
I just bought one. Sending in my upper this week.
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Yawn. Do an integral bolt gun and I'm interested.
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Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?stevejobs wrote:Yawn. Do an integral bolt gun and I'm interested.
http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
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From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?
http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
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Steve I like your avatarstevejobs wrote:From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?
http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
1500.00$ + for a suppressed upper? Holly s--t! I hope it comes with a shirt or sticker
AAC Cyclone-BRANDED FOR LIFE MEMBER
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That doesnt make sense to me its stays subsonic and every 16" semi I ever seen. Is the chamber tighter or something? Anyway im sure they would port it if you asked.stevejobs wrote:From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?
http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
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A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.yamatitan wrote:That doesnt make sense to me its stays subsonic and every 16" semi I ever seen. Is the chamber tighter or something? Anyway im sure they would port it if you asked.stevejobs wrote:From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?
http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
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I never thought of it that way, but it makes sense to me.
AAC Cyclone-BRANDED FOR LIFE MEMBER
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I would have figured most of the gas would be out the barrel by the time the bolt started to unlock. It has to be pretty damn close I would think it wouldnt take much porting to keep AAC subs subsonic in it and still have supers go super when you want better ballistics.redtazdog wrote: A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
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This is probably a result of testing with early factory loads. There were a lot of bolt gun shooters reporting supersonic velos in 16" bolt guns. I believe they backed it off some though, because I've had fine results in my 16" suppressed bolt gun with the 220 gr SMK factory load. They should probably try again with new ammo.stevejobs wrote:From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?
http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
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don't aac uppers go for $900? seems right in line price wise.gunguy wrote: 1500.00$ + for a suppressed upper? Holly s--t! I hope it comes with a shirt or sticker
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I have many 300 builds some AR's some single shot closed actions.yamatitan wrote:I would have figured most of the gas would be out the barrel by the time the bolt started to unlock. It has to be pretty damn close I would think it wouldnt take much porting to keep AAC subs subsonic in it and still have supers go super when you want better ballistics.redtazdog wrote: A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
with a 16" barrel on each kind of host it shows the diference in velocity between a closed breech gun and a auto
so I hand load most of my ammo for the closed breech guns and use the same ammo for the AR's
then I dont get the velocity boost.
I have seen a velocty change between diferent brands of barrels too as the kind of rifling
and bore size can change things a little.
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Im curious as to what the difference in velocity is. Are we talking 100 fps, 50 fps, 200 fps?redtazdog wrote:I have many 300 builds some AR's some single shot closed actions.yamatitan wrote:I would have figured most of the gas would be out the barrel by the time the bolt started to unlock. It has to be pretty damn close I would think it wouldnt take much porting to keep AAC subs subsonic in it and still have supers go super when you want better ballistics.redtazdog wrote: A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
with a 16" barrel on each kind of host it shows the diference in velocity between a closed breech gun and a auto
so I hand load most of my ammo for the closed breech guns and use the same ammo for the AR's
then I dont get the velocity boost.
I have seen a velocty change between diferent brands of barrels too as the kind of rifling
and bore size can change things a little.