three lug mount

[jlwilliams]

Is there any source for a three lug mount that could be used on a form 1 can?

[Bendersquint]

Is there any source for a three lug mount that could be used on a form 1 can?

No, because you can not purchase silencer parts.

Using it to build a Form1 silencer makes it a silencer part and therefore you can not buy one, they aren't hard to make....in fact there are plans for a home 3-lug on the internet somewhere(not sure where but I have seen them in the past).

[jaredr]

Is there any source for a three lug mount that could be used on a form 1 can?

No, because you can not purchase silencer parts.

what the heck? I was just looking at purchasing MP5K barrels w/3 lug mounts from hkparts and black-market-parts - they sell them as non-controlled items.

[Bendersquint]

Is there any source for a three lug mount that could be used on a form 1 can?

No, because you can not purchase silencer parts.

what the heck? I was just looking at purchasing MP5K barrels w/3 lug mounts from hkparts and black-market-parts - they sell them as non-controlled items.

A barrel isn't a controlled part.

He was asking about the mount to be used on a F1 can, which would be a part of the can, unless hes just looking to buy a mount to go on a barrel.

[Shift1]

There have been some plans posted here, I believe some cad diagrams can be found on youtube

[jaredr]

He was asking about the mount to be used on a F1 can

disregard, i thought the OP was referring to the three-lug mount which would be affixed to the barrel, not the female component that would be part of the suppressor.

[jlwilliams]

Yes, I'm looking for the female part.

Thanks for the replies. I'll look around for the drawings you mentioned. I tried searching "3 lug" and "three lug" here on ST but didn't find any drawings, so I posted this. I'll try youtube and more searching here. It's likely that if someone has built one themself, it's been discussed and shown here.

I was hoping that the mount wouldn't be a regulated part. I figured that since Gemtech sells multi mounts individually that maybe the mount was somehow outside the scope of that rule. I've been working on an MP5 clone project for a long time. The idea of following it up with a can (after I finally get the gun up and running) to make a complete package of homebrewed whoopass apeals to me.

[rogerme]

Yes, I'm looking for the female part.

The female parts always have rules covering there use and numerous laws covering the use and misuse of them.

[delta9mda]

Yes, I'm looking for the female part.

The female parts always have rules covering there use and numerous laws covering the use and misuse of them.

yes, use of female parts is always regulated heavily

[mollinst]

Ain't THAT the truth!

[Libertarian_Geek]

Anything with those female parts will always cost you lots of money.

[RPM509]

How about a female 3-lug so you can design and mount a new-style flash hider, then hell, design
a suppressor around it on a Form 1.

[Bendersquint]

How about a female 3-lug so you can design and mount a new-style flash hider, then hell, design
a suppressor around it on a Form 1.

It took longer than I thought before someone showed up with a attempt to get around the regs.

[sillycon]

Is there any reason that the OP wouldn't be able to purchase say a multi-mount mount for a 3-lug (or even a trident or octane 3-lug mount) and then build a can that could be threaded on to that mount?

I fail to see how for an SOT-made can a barrel mount doesn't count as a silencer part, but for a F1 built can it would. Can you elaborate?

Also, it would be appreciated if nobody "ran" with this idea and wrote a "clarification" letter about this to ATF. We already have enough regulatory messes caused by letter-writers.

[Bendersquint]

Is there any reason that the OP wouldn't be able to purchase say a multi-mount mount for a 3-lug (or even a trident or octane 3-lug mount) and then build a can that could be threaded on to that mount?

I fail to see how for an SOT-made can a barrel mount doesn't count as a silencer part, but for a F1 built can it would. Can you elaborate?

Also, it would be appreciated if nobody "ran" with this idea and wrote a "clarification" letter about this to ATF. We already have enough regulatory messes caused by letter-writers.

If it is used in the construction of a Form1 silencer then its classified as a silencer part which you can not purchase(raw materials used in the construction are different). The MultiMount/Trident mounts are legal because it was designed as a system manufactured by an 07/02. In the eyes of the ATF they are nothing more than accessories.

An SOT can convert a can to use mounts but an individual can not, because 02 SOT's can legally have silencer parts.

Form1 means you make it entirely yourself, you can't buy parts.

Letters have already been submitted on this topic as well as a number of others.

[delta9mda]

what about making the can and an adapter and then using the 3 lug? just askin

[Bendersquint]

what about making the can and an adapter and then using the 3 lug? just askin

With this method the last I heard that it was still considered buying a part since the part wasn't intended for your silencer.

The letters should clarify this issue and alot more.

[delta9mda]

what about making the can and an adapter and then using the 3 lug? just askin

With this method the last I heard that it was still considered buying a part since the part wasn't intended for your silencer.

The letters should clarify this issue and alot more.

thank you sir

[wolf]

what about making the can and an adapter and then using the 3 lug? just askin

With this method the last I heard that it was still considered buying a part since the part wasn't intended for your silencer.

The letters should clarify this issue and alot more.

So if you have a mount for one can , but it also fits another can , for which it wasnt sold (different manufacturer) that would make it illegal to use the mount on any can for which the manufacturer didnt build it ??

if the INTENT for a mount ,is to be the link between the barrel mounted mount ,and the threaded endcap of a can ,, ??

Then its just a thing ,, but then again , a shoelace was once a machine gun

[RPM509]

How about a female 3-lug so you can design and mount a new-style flash hider, then hell, design
a suppressor around it on a Form 1.

It took longer than I thought before someone showed up with a attempt to get around the regs.

The point is, intent. If you INTEND to make it a compatible mount for something else, you are then good to go.
How about suppressors that mount to the A2 cage? That makes the A2 cages silencer parts? (don't answer that, I know the answer)

Me personally? I wouldn't hesitate to make it as a mount for multiple parts AS LONG AS I HAD AN APPROVED Form 1 in hand.
If you want a legal ruling instead of all of us guessing for you, write a kindly worded letter asking for clarification from the ATF.

[ghostdog662]

I really hate how the law makes it so that if you didn't turn it out of bar or plate you are committing a mortal sin.

[Bendersquint]

I really hate how the law makes it so that if you didn't turn it out of solid round you are committing a mortal sin.

Thats the problem when an individual wants to MAKE something, you apply to have to MAKE something, not purchase an already made component.

Freeze plugs????? Not a silencer component until you do the work to MAKE it a silencer component.

Mounts/Adapters? Silencer components from the get-go and can't be purchase for use with a F1.

[ghostdog662]

I really hate how the law makes it so that if you didn't turn it out of solid round you are committing a mortal sin.

Thats the problem when an individual wants to MAKE something, you apply to have to MAKE something, not purchase an already made component.

Freeze plugs????? Not a silencer component until you do the work to MAKE it a silencer component.

Mounts/Adapters? Silencer components from the get-go and can't be purchase for use with a F1.

I understand, just griefing out loud.

[JohnnyO]

Buy a HK 3 lug flash hider and "make" it into a female mount for your f1 can.

[Bendersquint]

Buy a HK 3 lug flash hider and "make" it into a female mount for your f1 can.

That is a viable solution.