New UMC 300 BLK ammo is finally flowing.

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New UMC 300 BLK ammo is finally flowing.

Post by silencertalk » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:45 pm

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Index number: L300AAC1
Order number: 21421
Weight: 120 grains
UPC code: 47070 2
UPC case code: 47071 9
MSRP: $18.53

It is loaded in Barnes brass, using a Barnes 120 grain jacketed-lead OTM bullet, and is loaded for Remington UMC by Barnes in Utah.

Dealers can order it from Sports South or Davidson's, among other distributors.

Here is a good price for consumers (but lots of other dealers have it also):

http://www.cromwellsfirearms.com/index. ... t_id=94872


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Post by rimshaker » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:53 pm

BC? Muzzle velocity and energy? Bullet type? No additional info yet on Remington's site.

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Post by 700PSS » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:40 pm

rimshaker wrote:BC? Muzzle velocity and energy? Bullet type? No additional info yet on Remington's site.
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Post by silencertalk » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:18 pm

That data sheet is for the govt version, but it should be the same with the possible exception of inspection and stuff like water proofing.

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Post by strobro32 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:00 pm

BTW, If you own a firearm that uses this ammo and you're not reloading... you're nuts....or affluent...maybe both. ;)
If it doesn't splatter, shatter, burst or explode, it's not worth shooting.

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Post by AlabamaPaul » Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:40 pm

strobro32 wrote:BTW, If you own a firearm that uses this ammo and you're not reloading... you're nuts....or affluent...maybe both. ;)

Or maybe just a fan of this caliber??

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Post by rimshaker » Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:11 pm

strobro32 wrote:BTW, If you own a firearm that uses this ammo and you're not reloading... you're nuts....or affluent...maybe both. ;)
Unfortunately i'm completely nuts :(

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Post by hunter2 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:22 am

Checked on shipping from Cromwell - 14.05 plus tax and shipping for one box is almost $29.00. I am assuming shipping would be cheaper the more you added.

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Post by 700PSS » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:37 am

hunter2 wrote:Checked on shipping from Cromwell - 14.05 plus tax and shipping for one box is almost $29.00. I am assuming shipping would be cheaper the more you added.
Depends on where/how far you are from their shipping point. For my 3 case order, shipping was only $18.00 though.

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Post by timelinex » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:02 pm

I could never understand... what's the purpose of this round UNLESS your specifically using it for subsonic purposes? The round was specifically designed for subsonic purposes in an AR15. Otherwise, there seems to be much better cartridges out there (and cheaper!).

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Post by rimshaker » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:24 pm

timelinex wrote:I could never understand... what's the purpose of this round UNLESS your specifically using it for subsonic purposes? The round was specifically designed for subsonic purposes in an AR15. Otherwise, there seems to be much better cartridges out there (and cheaper!).
You're missing the other half. The supersonic rounds are more effective than 556 at the same distances, say under 300m. And through a shorter barrel!

300 BLK isn't a huge leap up like 308win would be over 556, but it's still a step up nonetheless. All while using the same exact parts and equipment.

Yea the ammo situation is a PITA right now. But only time can bring prices down.

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Post by JasonM » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:26 pm

timelinex wrote:The round was specifically designed for subsonic purposes in an AR15.
No it wasn't.

It was designed as a 30-cal solution that would fit and function in standard AR15s. The easy/efficient subsonic loadings are an offshoot, but not the only focus of the project.
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Post by tsands974 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:46 pm

Speaking of the design of this round, was the Honey Badger project merely a demo-prototype or were any delivered to the SF community for testing? Always wondered about that, this thread just reminded me of it.

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Post by 700PSS » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:45 pm

tsands974 wrote:Speaking of the design of this round, was the Honey Badger project merely a demo-prototype or were any delivered to the SF community for testing? Always wondered about that, this thread just reminded me of it.
Maybe it'll be ready in "2 weeks", right after the "Black Box" hits the market. :P

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Post by JasonM » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:15 pm

tsands974 wrote:Speaking of the design of this round, was the Honey Badger project merely a demo-prototype or were any delivered to the SF community for testing? Always wondered about that, this thread just reminded me of it.
Honey badger is part of a current Low Visibility Assault Weapon solicitation. There was a downselect to two finalists a few months ago. HB is one of the finalists, but I wouldn't bet on it winning.

If Rem allows, AAC will definitely eventually release it for civs, it's too cool not to and it's a way to recoup some development costs.
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Post by D9M9TR9S » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:41 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :shock: :D I'd love one...or two

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Post by saami300BLK » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:00 am

I just picked up a box of L300AAC1 for less than $17 at the local Walmart. These were in a white Remington box.

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Post by Deathray » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:10 pm

JasonM wrote:
timelinex wrote:The round was specifically designed for subsonic purposes in an AR15.
No it wasn't.

It was designed as a 30-cal solution that would fit and function in standard AR15s. The easy/efficient subsonic loadings are an offshoot, but not the only focus of the project.
The focus of the project was to brand and capitalize on the efforts made by many reloaders over the last decade or two with the 300 Whisper without a whole lot of effort put into it yourself.

But on the up side: since this is loaded by Barnes it won't be complete crap like the majority of Remington ammunition.

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Post by dtom29 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:02 pm

Did somebody leave the door open from the 68 forum?

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Post by silencertalk » Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:28 pm

Deathray wrote:The focus of the project was to brand and capitalize on the efforts made by many reloaders over the last decade or two with the 300 Whisper without a whole lot of effort put into it yourself.
The focus was to agree to do what the military asked, and offer a working rifle and ammunition product family so they would have something to buy and use. To do that, the round had to be in SAAMI, which was not possible if it was a trademarked name. Moreover, it needed to be as good as possible, so many man-years of R&D was put into it to improve on what had been done before. Before there were feeding problems. Solved. Before there were magazine issues. Solved. Before adjustable gas blocks were needed to work with all four configurations. Solved. Before ammunition was $45 a box. Solved. Before there was no brass to buy. Solved.

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Post by Wicked » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:39 pm

silencertalk wrote:The focus was to agree to do what the military asked, and offer a working rifle and ammunition product family so they would have something to buy and use. To do that, the round had to be in SAAMI, which was not possible if it was a trademarked name. Moreover, it needed to be as good as possible, so many man-years of R&D was put into it to improve on what had been done before. Before there were feeding problems. Solved. Before there were magazine issues. Solved. Before adjustable gas blocks were needed to work with all four configurations. Solved. Before ammunition was $45 a box. Solved. Before there was no brass to buy. Solved.
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