You can find timing shims at Midway and Brownells. They are not AAC brand but should work fine.JohnnyUtah556 wrote:In regards to the Damn The Man promotion, I watched the website like a hawk and with the right time redeemed my $400 on a 12.5 300blk upper, since the 9" was never in stock. Now I can't even seem to get timing shims and they're all out of stock.
Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience
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It is too bad Remington destroyed them. I sure like my 300TM and Pilot, but I'd be hard pressed to buy anything else from AAC.
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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience
Thanks, I just picked up a Surefire muzzle brake so hopefully the spare shims and rocksett will do the trickL1A1Rocker wrote:You can find timing shims at Midway and Brownells. They are not AAC brand but should work fine.JohnnyUtah556 wrote:In regards to the Damn The Man promotion, I watched the website like a hawk and with the right time redeemed my $400 on a 12.5 300blk upper, since the 9" was never in stock. Now I can't even seem to get timing shims and they're all out of stock.
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I hope my Element 2 never has issues. I dont want to deal with Remington. Already had to have them fix an old marlin and they took nearly a year and it came back very rough. The issue was a broken firing pin. I don't know why they had to change out the lever and the magazine tube. Makes me wonder what they did to it.
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This is sad, This part of the Firearms Business is Booming more than any other in history, except AR15's and with the dedication the consumers show, its hard to watch a company that doesn't show customers the same respect. Customer relations are exactly that, a relationship with a customer. I'm annulling my new marriage with them and cancelling my order for my new can and upper. I was one of the original testers for the Remington Tracking point Rifles on the Military side and was offered one at cost, I put my money up and its been 4 years, 3 new reps and 3 new managers since I placed my order, wonder if I'll ever get my rifle? I'd cancel but the deal was awesome. After seeing what they did with each of their new companies I'm skeptical. I'm stil waiting for the recall to fix my 700's trigger.
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Probably took it hunting before sending it back.Deja vu wrote:I hope my Element 2 never has issues. I dont want to deal with Remington. Already had to have them fix an old marlin and they took nearly a year and it came back very rough. The issue was a broken firing pin. I don't know why they had to change out the lever and the magazine tube. Makes me wonder what they did to it.
As a new can owner and AAC can to boot this gives me some uneasiness. I am loving my new 300-TM the more I use it and while I can't see any need (barring the unforeseen) to have any work done on it if it does I don't feel to positive AAC will take care of me in a timely manner. I'm hoping they turn this around in the near future and make positive strides with their CS. Its always possible.
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This is a shame. I always liked aac suppressors and the mounting system. Already dealt with remington over a trigger recall on my 300 blk rem 700. That experience sucked. Should have just bought a timney.
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You know they just went out of business right?I was one of the original testers for the Remington Tracking point Rifles on the Military side and was offered one at cost, I put my money up and its been 4 years, 3 new reps and 3 new managers since I placed my order, wonder if I'll ever get my rifle?
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I'm seeing a lot of bad mouthing of AAC. Guys I think you are all getting a little carried away. I understand you are angry - I would be too - but they just completed a major move and these things take time. I've seen it several times in the Air Force when we start a building project on base. It is very much like what AAC is doing in the move to Huntsville. They were in Georgia for the better part of 10 or more years. They had to completely up root their business and move in with all the other Remington companies in Alabama. None of these companies have ever done this before and they probably having a lot of friction getting operations restarted. We do this kind of thing in the Air Force all the time and we screw it up more than we get it right.
They've lost people in the move and got new people they're trying to train across their work force. Many of these people are skill labours (machinist) who are hard to find. When you do find one, it takes time for them to adapt to the way AAC does things and learn the nuisances of suppressor manufacture. They've probably also had to get new admin people working in the offices as well. The people that manage these promotions. When you're new to the office it takes time to learn the job.
Trust me, I know. The Air Force has us changing offices every year in a flying squadron. I have found it take about 6 months to learn your new job when you factor in deployments and TDY's and about a full year to get really good at it. This is for college grads who have to skills and mental fortitude to make it through a formal military flying program. These people are not stupid(mostly) and are very capable (again, mostly). I wouldn't write AAC off yet. I'd wait until the beginning of next year before I started thing the company has gone off the deep end.
They've lost people in the move and got new people they're trying to train across their work force. Many of these people are skill labours (machinist) who are hard to find. When you do find one, it takes time for them to adapt to the way AAC does things and learn the nuisances of suppressor manufacture. They've probably also had to get new admin people working in the offices as well. The people that manage these promotions. When you're new to the office it takes time to learn the job.
Trust me, I know. The Air Force has us changing offices every year in a flying squadron. I have found it take about 6 months to learn your new job when you factor in deployments and TDY's and about a full year to get really good at it. This is for college grads who have to skills and mental fortitude to make it through a formal military flying program. These people are not stupid(mostly) and are very capable (again, mostly). I wouldn't write AAC off yet. I'd wait until the beginning of next year before I started thing the company has gone off the deep end.
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You must be new in the world of suppressors. These issues are not new and have been ongoing years before Remington took them over.
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Seriously?
6-12 months for a skilled, college graduate to learn their job?
It's no wonder so much smack is talked about the Chair Force
Enter the real world. Most companies give you a 90 day, probationary, period.
I don't see Remington's actions as being those of a company who is truly committed to the future of AAC. I wouldn't be surprised if they're only interest was an easy route to snatch gov't contracts. They've had the M4A1 contract since 2012, worth up to $180M. Combine that with an $80M contract for precision rifle, after everyone else boycott'd the deal. It's pretty clear they are more worried about the bottom line.
It's time to stop making excuses for them!
6-12 months for a skilled, college graduate to learn their job?
It's no wonder so much smack is talked about the Chair Force
Enter the real world. Most companies give you a 90 day, probationary, period.
I don't see Remington's actions as being those of a company who is truly committed to the future of AAC. I wouldn't be surprised if they're only interest was an easy route to snatch gov't contracts. They've had the M4A1 contract since 2012, worth up to $180M. Combine that with an $80M contract for precision rifle, after everyone else boycott'd the deal. It's pretty clear they are more worried about the bottom line.
It's time to stop making excuses for them!
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Use a YHM QD Phantom on my patrol rifle. The rifle stays in its locked cruiser holder, and the suppressor comes inside with me at the end of every shift. The suppressor lockup on the toothed adapter has not provided any indicators of wear failure.ericlw wrote:Are you holding down the latch while you thread it on or let it click over all the teeth? i always hold mine down so it doesn't wear things down.
Believe YHM QD mounting system has it over AAC. Just saying...
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T-Rex wrote:They've had the M4A1 contract since 2012, worth up to $180M.
Off-topic, but that contract award was protested by Colt and taken away from Rem.
Also, agree on the bigger picture... it's not encouraging the way Rem has run AAC (seemingly) into the ground in a couple short years.
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I am also using a YHM QD Phantom and have another waiting for the Feds. Very happy with YHM.continuity wrote:Use a YHM QD Phantom on my patrol rifle. The rifle stays in its locked cruiser holder, and the suppressor comes inside with me at the end of every shift. The suppressor lockup on the toothed adapter has not provided any indicators of wear failure.ericlw wrote:Are you holding down the latch while you thread it on or let it click over all the teeth? i always hold mine down so it doesn't wear things down.
Believe YHM QD mounting system has it over AAC. Just saying...
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Didnt most of AAC's crew go to Sig? Might have to buy one of their cans next.
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Does Mers still work there?
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A few went to Sig a all the fun crew came to us (Dead Air). Well except John Hollister and Brent Taylor (Liberty). I wish they were with us too.n.franklin wrote:Didnt most of AAC's crew go to Sig? Might have to buy one of their cans next.
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It's OK guys, they still have plenty of shirts in stock so you can advertise the silencer "lifestyle."
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I wish Nick or someone else would answer my customers emails.
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Is Mike Mers still with AAC? Anyone know?
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Mike isn't with them anymore, I don't know where he went though.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I called it years ago.
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It makes me very sad to see the brand die, but life changes and things are evolving every day.
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It makes me very sad to see the brand die, but life changes and things are evolving every day.
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Mike Smith is still there, so they've still got a great designer on hand. There's always that.