I have a friend, not a member on here, that has submitted 2 Form 1's Efile for SBR and SBS's about 4-6 months ago. Still pending. This past Tuesday night he submitted one more SBR Efile form 1. Yesterday morning he already received a denial letter for the one he submitted on Tuesday. Less than 4 days. It was signed and all with a description on why it was denied, his error. But 4 days. Is this shocking to anyone else? He was flabbergasted.
Thanks,
Britt
Quick question in todays strange NFA world
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Re: Quick question in todays strange NFA world
no
not shocking
not strange
there are no supernatural forces at work here
not shocking
not strange
there are no supernatural forces at work here
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
Re: Quick question in todays strange NFA world
I'm assuming that the point of "wtf" that you're fixed on is that a good-to-go form will take half-a-year, but then a flawed form gets rejected in 4 days... meaning that (presumably) all forms are looked at within 4 days, but then there's this inexplicable waiting period for good forms?
It's because the ATF has no competition, and therefore, they have no desire, need, or inclination to do their job more quickly. The actual process is not significantly different than an ordinary handgun purchase: 21... no felonies... NFA-friendly state. The FBI check isn't a group of suited sunglasses driving around in Ford Interceptors interviewing friends-and-acquaintances... they're not swabbing prior residences for DNA... and they're not waiting for "mysterious lab results" to come back.
The process could be done inside a business week if they wanted to.
Individually? The examiners might be moving along at a brisk clip, but systematically? The process is shyte... and there's no pressure to do it any other way.
It's because the ATF has no competition, and therefore, they have no desire, need, or inclination to do their job more quickly. The actual process is not significantly different than an ordinary handgun purchase: 21... no felonies... NFA-friendly state. The FBI check isn't a group of suited sunglasses driving around in Ford Interceptors interviewing friends-and-acquaintances... they're not swabbing prior residences for DNA... and they're not waiting for "mysterious lab results" to come back.
The process could be done inside a business week if they wanted to.
Individually? The examiners might be moving along at a brisk clip, but systematically? The process is shyte... and there's no pressure to do it any other way.
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Re: Quick question in todays strange NFA world
I got you Trooper. I just figured they were so back logged that there was no way in hell they could have actually looked at it, signed, denied and emailed it back in 4 days. I guess they can. Neither one of us have a problem waiting, that is what you learn when you get into this game. You also learn there is no rhyme or reason for anything. We were just shocked that someone actually looked at his application so quickly.
Thanks,
Britt
Thanks,
Britt
Re: Quick question in todays strange NFA world
The NFA branch has been through lots of revamps the past few years. Not just with personnel, but with form processing also. No one knows to what extent.
Could be that submissions are screened initially by support staff. Catching errors and what not. Then the legit forms are sent off to another queue.
Hey this is a good thing for your buddy! He was denied early enough to resubmit again before the 13th.
Could be that submissions are screened initially by support staff. Catching errors and what not. Then the legit forms are sent off to another queue.
Hey this is a good thing for your buddy! He was denied early enough to resubmit again before the 13th.
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Re: Quick question in todays strange NFA world
The NFA Branch started quick scans of eForms filings to spot obvious errors and reject them so they could be resubmitted before the rule change.
Re: Quick question in todays strange NFA world
Well that's what he did, resubmitted today. Thanks for the comments. NFA items always generate conversation.
Britt
Britt