Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
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Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
The Problem:
The Silencerco Octane/Omega 9K piston and fixed mounts are not compatible with conventional tools and cannot be adequately tightened or loosened by hand. In the case of the 13.5mmX1LH fixed and piston mounts, the barrel thread is left-handed and the suppressor body attaches to the mount with a right-hand thread. Rocksett can be used to solve this, but that makes frequent changing of the different mounts a challenge.
I recommend against doing a 3-lug mount arrangement (with the newer short mount, anyway), as the mechanism takes up blast chamber volume, which makes the suppressor considerably louder than with a direct-thread mount, which is what I recommend for the MPX. However, people usually say they use a 3-lug to prevent loosening of the suppressor from the weapon, which can happen with a direct-thread mount if adequate torque is not applied.
I would only use the piston system for pistols and not use a piston with a fixed barrel spacer on an MPX, as this arrangement is also louder than a direct thread mount, but you have no choice but to use a piston mount on a pistol.
The Solution:
I 3D modeled and printed a wrench that interfaces with the Octane/Omega 9K direct thread/piston mounts. Silencerco does not make a wrench for these. My wrench is a high-strength PLA polymer material that will break if way too much torque is applied, but if you torque it on with the wrench without a lot of Rocksett, it should torque back off without problems (a very small amount of Rocksett is fine). This wrench is critical for torqueing to the left onto the barrel and then for isolating the mount from the right-hand torque applied to install the suppressor body to the mount.
I can now easily transition between piston and fixed mounts for my Omega 9K.
I also did one for the Dead Air Wolf-9SD.
The Silencerco Octane/Omega 9K piston and fixed mounts are not compatible with conventional tools and cannot be adequately tightened or loosened by hand. In the case of the 13.5mmX1LH fixed and piston mounts, the barrel thread is left-handed and the suppressor body attaches to the mount with a right-hand thread. Rocksett can be used to solve this, but that makes frequent changing of the different mounts a challenge.
I recommend against doing a 3-lug mount arrangement (with the newer short mount, anyway), as the mechanism takes up blast chamber volume, which makes the suppressor considerably louder than with a direct-thread mount, which is what I recommend for the MPX. However, people usually say they use a 3-lug to prevent loosening of the suppressor from the weapon, which can happen with a direct-thread mount if adequate torque is not applied.
I would only use the piston system for pistols and not use a piston with a fixed barrel spacer on an MPX, as this arrangement is also louder than a direct thread mount, but you have no choice but to use a piston mount on a pistol.
The Solution:
I 3D modeled and printed a wrench that interfaces with the Octane/Omega 9K direct thread/piston mounts. Silencerco does not make a wrench for these. My wrench is a high-strength PLA polymer material that will break if way too much torque is applied, but if you torque it on with the wrench without a lot of Rocksett, it should torque back off without problems (a very small amount of Rocksett is fine). This wrench is critical for torqueing to the left onto the barrel and then for isolating the mount from the right-hand torque applied to install the suppressor body to the mount.
I can now easily transition between piston and fixed mounts for my Omega 9K.
I also did one for the Dead Air Wolf-9SD.
Last edited by chase on Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Well done! I designed and printed a tool a couple years ago for my Octane 9 but it was their old mount style that it fit. It makes a huge difference in trying to change mounts.
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Thank you!
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Very nice, good looking work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
I don't know why I've never thought to 3d print a tool for my form 1 endcap. I was gonna make an aluminum one but never got around to it.
300 blackout form 1: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137293
5.56 form 1:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=141800&p=955647#p955647
5.56 form 1:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=141800&p=955647#p955647
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Are you interested in making a few more for sale? I know I can't be the only person who doesn't have a 3D printer.chase wrote:The Problem:
The Solution:
I 3D modeled and printed a wrench that interfaces with the Octane/Omega 9K direct thread/piston mounts. Silencerco does not make a wrench for these. My wrench is a high-strength PLA polymer material that will break if way too much torque is applied, but if you torque it on with the wrench without a lot of Rocksett, it should torque back off without problems (a very small amount of Rocksett is fine). This wrench is critical for torqueing to the left onto the barrel and then for isolating the mount from the right-hand torque applied to install the suppressor body to the mount.
I can now easily transition between piston and fixed mounts for my Omega 9K.
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Check private messages.
savage54 wrote:
Are you interested in making a few more for sale? I know I can't be the only person who doesn't have a 3D printer.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Please sell these. I need them.
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Check private messages.
DrDremel wrote:Please sell these. I need them.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
I'd be interested in the Wolf wrench!
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Check private messages.Bradpierson26 wrote:I'd be interested in the Wolf wrench!
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
You can use an AR armorer's wrench for the Wolf (and Ghost). Pretend it's a castle nut and you're good to go.
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Correct, but the polymer wrench won't damage the mount's finish.Joshua@CapitolArmory wrote:You can use an AR armorer's wrench for the Wolf (and Ghost). Pretend it's a castle nut and you're good to go.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
I too would be interested in a wrench too. Have not received my Wolf SD yet
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Private message sent.Oldfalguy wrote:I too would be interested in a wrench too. Have not received my Wolf SD yet
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
I'm interested in a wrench for the Octane 45 HD.
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
PM sent.buckgunner wrote:I'm interested in a wrench for the Octane 45 HD.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
More are now available.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Interested in a wrench for my 45 Octane HD.
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
PM sent.Kramer wrote:Interested in a wrench for my 45 Octane HD.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
More are now available.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
I just made a whole bunch more wrenches for Omega 9K/45K/Octane and Wolf 9SD/Ghost mounts.
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Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
I got a omega 9k, ghost 45m, omega, hybrid among others coming. What you got and pics and price?
Re: Omega 9K/45K/Octane Mount Wrench (And for Dead Air Wolf 9SD too!)
Here is the latest info:bravo2 wrote:I got a omega 9k, ghost 45m, omega, hybrid among others coming. What you got and pics and price?
https://tinyurl.com/WIT-LLC-Tools-10-06-2018-01
Video review:
https://youtu.be/fGXkqMGHrUA
Thanks!
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