Integrally Suppressed vs Detachable Can

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Integrally Suppressed vs Detachable Can

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Since starting the process for my 1st suppressor I've been totally bitten by the "quiet bug"... this morning I submitted my fingerprints using SilencerShop.com Kiost at my local dealer and the paperwork is on it's way to be processed (as soon as the SS.com receives the actual can/serial number, I ordered the Dead Air Mask as my first .22 silencer but it's on backorder with 4-6 week delay).

Putting the economics of it aside and the fact I'm eating through my retirement savings :lol: (I realize that integrally suppressed barrel is married to the gun) what are the pros and cons of integrally suppressed barrels?

I'm thinking about getting the TacSol Pac-Lite IV TSS Integrally Suppressed Barrel Upgrade for my Ruger Mark IV Tactical: https://www.silencershop.com/tacsol-pac ... grade.html since that is the only option available in the store plus the reviews are very good; it also has internal baffles instead of a mono-core (which from what I understand can significantly improve the first round pop).

But I can't quite decide on the dedicated barrel for a Ruger 10/22, I have 3 options:

1) TacSol X-Ring: https://www.silencershop.com/tacsol-x-r ... black.html

2) Gemtech Mist: https://www.silencershop.com/gemtech-in ... essor.html

3) YHM: https://www.silencershop.com/yhm-integr ... arrel.html

I'm leaning toward #1 due to baffles vs mono-core (the prices are all within $50 so that's not an issue), but is it true baffles make first round pop quieter? or does it not matter on a rifle as much due to longer powder burn time in a longer barrel?

What else do you guys have to say about integrally suppressed vs screw on cans?
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Integrals are cool but I wouldn't recommend it until you have a few other cans to cover your rifle, pistol and rimfire needs. Once you have those bases covered I say go nuts I have a couple integral 300 blackouts and they are nice plus I'm waiting on a Sico maxim 9 might get a second one of those if it turds out to be decent. As far as the integral 10/22 my brother has a Mist and its nice.
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Most integral silencers can be removed
300 blackout form 1: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137293

5.56 form 1:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=141800&p=955647#p955647
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fishman wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:44 pm Most integral silencers can be removed
I dont think thats an accurate statement. If its just a pinned and welded can I guess you could remove it but it would dick the can up.
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jimbo45 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:12 pm
fishman wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:44 pm Most integral silencers can be removed
I dont think thats an accurate statement. If its just a pinned and welded can I guess you could remove it but it would dick the can up.
Most integral silencers simply unscrew and arent permanently attached.
300 blackout form 1: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137293

5.56 form 1:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=141800&p=955647#p955647
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fishman wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:15 am
jimbo45 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:12 pm
fishman wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:44 pm Most integral silencers can be removed
I dont think thats an accurate statement. If its just a pinned and welded can I guess you could remove it but it would dick the can up.
Most integral silencers simply unscrew and arent permanently attached.
For a suppressor to be integral part of it is part of the barrel and not removable either the baffles or the shield. If you can remove both then that isn't integral.
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jimbo45 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:56 am
fishman wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:15 am
jimbo45 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:12 pm

I dont think thats an accurate statement. If its just a pinned and welded can I guess you could remove it but it would dick the can up.
Most integral silencers simply unscrew and arent permanently attached.
For a suppressor to be integral part of it is part of the barrel and not removable either the baffles or the shield. If you can remove both then that isn't integral.
MP5SD begs to differ
300 blackout form 1: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137293

5.56 form 1:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=141800&p=955647#p955647
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Yeah most integrals the tube and baffles can be removed. The break being that you can't just unscrew it and use it on another gun.

If I could have integrals on all my guns I'd do it.
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fishman wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 3:34 pm
jimbo45 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:56 am
fishman wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:15 am

Most integral silencers simply unscrew and arent permanently attached.
For a suppressor to be integral part of it is part of the barrel and not removable either the baffles or the shield. If you can remove both then that isn't integral.
MP5SD begs to differ
That is true. I was more going on what the op was asking about which would be 1 stamp guns.
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