Might be on here somewhere else.
https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015021 ... ar-15-ammo
Damn. Just last week Wideners had M855 for around $359.00/1K.
Not any more. It's all gone. What they will get in is going to be marked through the roof. I suspect that all M193 will fly off of the shelves too.
Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
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Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
Distributors still have some at same prices as last week. Just ordered 300 cases . No need to panic yet sales rep stated they have lots more inbound.
Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
As soon as I read that I went to Widener's and ordered 6 boxes (500) of SS109 62 gr bullets for $60/box. I see that they too are out of stock now! I only have one of my AR15s that I shoot M855 through so this should last me a while. I'd love to get my hands on the M855A1 ammo but this ruling pretty much nixes that chance.
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PLEASE take a minute to email the address in that article.
Stocking up is great. But, what if we could stop it from happening?
Stocking up is great. But, what if we could stop it from happening?
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Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
Manuf. had to make 7.62X39 pistols and that steel core was banned.
Everyone had to make AR15 pistols in 5.56 and that steel core ammo is soon banned.
Anyone with any kind of a brain at all knew this was coming and should have stocked up if that is the kind of ammo they need.
Everyone had to make AR15 pistols in 5.56 and that steel core ammo is soon banned.
Anyone with any kind of a brain at all knew this was coming and should have stocked up if that is the kind of ammo they need.
NFA shooters blow their load with only one pull of the trigger.
Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
Let me correct that for you: Olympic Arms had to make a 7.62X39 pistol and steel core was banned. He was warned it would happen but he bought it out anyway and within months the ATF acted. Even to this day I won't buy anything from them.David Hineline wrote:Manuf. had to make 7.62X39 pistols and that steel core was banned.
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Guess I wont be buying an AR for awhile after all.
A gun is meant to protect your life, not your wallet. Things can be replaced, people cant.
Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
M193 is still available at $.32 to $.33 a round, Wideners has plenty of it. I just wish that I'd scarfed up some M855 last week.
What pisses me off is that the ATF does crap like this while there are so many other hot button issues that no one will give a rats ass about it.
Again, happy that I'm closer to the tomb than the womb.
What pisses me off is that the ATF does crap like this while there are so many other hot button issues that no one will give a rats ass about it.
Again, happy that I'm closer to the tomb than the womb.
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Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
Where on earth did you manage to find 300,000 rounds of M855?!66427vette wrote:Distributors still have some at same prices as last week. Just ordered 300 cases . No need to panic yet sales rep stated they have lots more inbound.
Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
Everything that I've found had been way up in price.
But a new news item might drive it all through the roof once again.
But a new news item might drive it all through the roof once again.
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Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
sillycon wrote:Where on earth did you manage to find 300,000 rounds of M855?!66427vette wrote:Distributors still have some at same prices as last week. Just ordered 300 cases . No need to panic yet sales rep stated they have lots more inbound.
Someone very close to me is the sales manager of one of largest distributors in the country. Same guy gets me a1/2 pallet of .22 ammo once a month.
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Luckily not affected by this (yet), but wouldn't this ban solid copper hunting bullets like Barnes as well? This sort of absolute interpretation is not what I would call fair and honest government. Now we may disagree on the level of governmental influence, but most agree that some regulation is in the common interest. But what they're doing is writing with too wide a brush, regulation should be with a clear purpose and precise enough to not cause too much unavoidable limitations. There should be some balance between the cost of regulation and the reward. This is done without any care for consequences it might have on other unrelated areas and just seems spiteful and petty.
Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
They are setting the stage. Camel nose under the tent type of stunt.
Wait for the main act...
Wait for the main act...
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Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
I remembered when that happened and was waiting for it to happen again with the AR pistols. That's why I bought a "few" cases of 5.56 last year.David Hineline wrote:Manuf. had to make 7.62X39 pistols and that steel core was banned.
Everyone had to make AR15 pistols in 5.56 and that steel core ammo is soon banned.
Anyone with any kind of a brain at all knew this was coming and should have stocked up if that is the kind of ammo they need.
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Our gov't is not writing with "too wide a brush" relative to the overall goal.Fulmen wrote:Luckily not affected by this (yet), but wouldn't this ban solid copper hunting bullets like Barnes as well? This sort of absolute interpretation is not what I would call fair and honest government. Now we may disagree on the level of governmental influence, but most agree that some regulation is in the common interest. But what they're doing is writing with too wide a brush, regulation should be with a clear purpose and precise enough to not cause too much unavoidable limitations. There should be some balance between the cost of regulation and the reward. This is done without any care for consequences it might have on other unrelated areas and just seems spiteful and petty.
Step 1: Ban non-lead projectiles as "armor piercing"
Step 2: Ban lead due to it being environmentally unfriendly
The anti's got step 2 accomplished in CA some time ago. It's just taken longer than hoped on a national level, but they'll be "keeping on, keeping on" with it -- rest assured.
What do you believe is up their sleeve?bakerjw wrote:They are setting the stage. Camel nose under the tent type of stunt.
Wait for the main act...
Re: Say good bye to good prices for a bit eh?
We all know what is up their sleeve. For now it's M855. Soon it could be restrictions on all lead in bullets. Then it could be any bullet with materials harder than lead. We are dealing with an administration that is not our friend.
That said, Wideners is all out of M193 now because of this crap. Never before has one American screwed over so many other Americans by his words or actions.
That said, Wideners is all out of M193 now because of this crap. Never before has one American screwed over so many other Americans by his words or actions.
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Ah, I thought you were suggesting/hinting at something other than incrementally banning ammunition.
I'm inclined to put Dear Leader in with FDR ("new deal" social policies bankrupting the nation today) and Woodrow Wilson (Federal Reserve Act, also responsible for bankrupting the nation today...) for top honors with the screwing of America/Americans.bakerjw wrote:Never before has one American screwed over so many other Americans by his words or actions.
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NFA shooters blow their load with only one pull of the trigger.
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David Hineline wrote:http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=37785
He was a great President, but not a true friend of the American gun owner.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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That's already been put out in feelers. Only sintered tin cores b/c lead is unenviromental. We get our lead from China b/c the EPA shut down all US lead smelters. And EPA could regulate lead cores w/o Congression action.bakerjw wrote:We all know what is up their sleeve. For now it's M855. Soon it could be restrictions on all lead in bullets. Then it could be any bullet with materials harder than lead. We are dealing with an administration that is not our friend.
That said, Wideners is all out of M193 now because of this crap. Never before has one American screwed over so many other Americans by his words or actions.
They say: Hollow points are "Cop Killers". Armor Piercing defeats Kevlar.
What's next? No pointy tips? Plastic rounds only? DNA scanners in grip programmed at time of purchase?
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