I recently purchased a CVA Scout in .44 Mag and had the barrel cut to 16.5" and threaded. My plan is to build a Form 1 suppressor and use this for deer hunting. Most of the suppressor designs I have seen for the .44 Mag are Ruger 44/77 that are integrally suppressed. I am looking to build a direct thread .44 Mag suppressor but have not seen much posted on this topic.
My initial thoughts are something on the lines of a 11.5" tube that's 1.50" Dia with a 2.5" blast chamber, and about 13 cone baffles. I plan to have a 0.50" bore through the suppressor. I have drawn a few plans up on paper but have not put it into a CAD drawing yet.
Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
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Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
Do you really want a 28" barrel on your single shot carbine?
Yeah, it'll work fairly well provided you match the cone profile and spacing well, but that's a really long can. I don't even go that long for .338 Lapua models (granted, those are 1.75" OD). You'll reach a point of diminishing returns beyond 8-9" with a cartridge like .44 mag, which maxxes out with about a 30 gr. powder charge.
Yeah, it'll work fairly well provided you match the cone profile and spacing well, but that's a really long can. I don't even go that long for .338 Lapua models (granted, those are 1.75" OD). You'll reach a point of diminishing returns beyond 8-9" with a cartridge like .44 mag, which maxxes out with about a 30 gr. powder charge.
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Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
ECCO Machine, thank you for the response. Yes, it is not ideal to have a 28" barrel but with the single shot firearm the chamber is closer to the buttstock than with a bolt or automatic, to the overall length would probably be similar to a bolt with a 24" barrel.
I built a Form 1 suppressor for a 300 Blackout that was 1.5" dia x 9" long with a 1.75" blast chamber and 13 cone baffles. I spaced the first 3 baffles further apart than the 10 towards the end of the suppressor. That can was really quite using subsonic loads.
I figured going from .30 Cal to .44 Ca I would need more volume and a larger blast chamber if I planned on using a 1.5" dia tube. I would like to make the tube shorter for the .44 can, but I want to make sure above all things that it is quite.
Any tips on the number of baffles and baffle spacing for a .44 Mag direct thread suppressor would be greatly appreciated. I'm very much a novice at this.
Also, would you recommend clipping the baffles for a .44 mag?
Thanks again!
I built a Form 1 suppressor for a 300 Blackout that was 1.5" dia x 9" long with a 1.75" blast chamber and 13 cone baffles. I spaced the first 3 baffles further apart than the 10 towards the end of the suppressor. That can was really quite using subsonic loads.
I figured going from .30 Cal to .44 Ca I would need more volume and a larger blast chamber if I planned on using a 1.5" dia tube. I would like to make the tube shorter for the .44 can, but I want to make sure above all things that it is quite.
Any tips on the number of baffles and baffle spacing for a .44 Mag direct thread suppressor would be greatly appreciated. I'm very much a novice at this.
Also, would you recommend clipping the baffles for a .44 mag?
Thanks again!
Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
28" is the default barrel length for the TC encore. Its really not that long in a single shot action.ECCO Machine wrote:Do you really want a 28" barrel on your single shot carbine?
Yeah, it'll work fairly well provided you match the cone profile and spacing well, but that's a really long can. I don't even go that long for .338 Lapua models (granted, those are 1.75" OD). You'll reach a point of diminishing returns beyond 8-9" with a cartridge like .44 mag, which maxxes out with about a 30 gr. powder charge.
yes. Always yes.Also, would you recommend clipping the baffles for a .44 mag?
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Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
Being a supersonic big bore round, it's gonna be loud compared to 300 blk subs no matter what you do.Haymaker wrote: I would like to make the tube shorter for the .44 can, but I want to make sure above all things that it is quite.
Not without knowing what they're gonna look like.Haymaker wrote:Any tips on the number of baffles and baffle spacing for a .44 Mag direct thread suppressor would be greatly appreciated. I'm very much a novice at this.
You need to look for cross sections of cans that were designed for some of the "smaller' big bore rounds like .458 SOCOM & .450 Bushmaster-rounds that are supersonic but nowhere near the powder capacity & velocity of .408 Cheytac, .416 Barrett, .460 Weatherby
Absolutely.Haymaker wrote:Also, would you recommend clipping the baffles for a .44 mag?
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Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
I've seen, used and built suppressed big bores over the years. Almost everyone uses .44 specials ,45 Colt, 45 acp ,458 socom...etc because they are subsonic. I love the .44 mag but the muzzle blast even with the worlds best suppressor will be huge.
You might try a 300gr FP at about 950fps using magnum cases or use the standard .44 special . They have more than enough energy to take down a moose ,black bear or mule deer quietly & quickly with a well placed shot.
This hunting rifle build would benefit from a reflex design to shorten the OAL of the rifle. I would not want to be swinging 11 inches when 8 will do the job in style.
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You might try a 300gr FP at about 950fps using magnum cases or use the standard .44 special . They have more than enough energy to take down a moose ,black bear or mule deer quietly & quickly with a well placed shot.
This hunting rifle build would benefit from a reflex design to shorten the OAL of the rifle. I would not want to be swinging 11 inches when 8 will do the job in style.
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Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
fishman & ECCO Machine, thanks, I will defiantly clip the baffles. My plan was to use 60 deg cone baffles.
I also planned on using .44 Special or loading a heavy subsonic .44 mag load
Capt. Link., I thought about a reflex design after I received the barrel back from the gun smith. I should have had him turn the barrel down so I could make a reflex suppressor, but it's a little too late now. It took almost 2-months for the gun smith get time to cut and thread the barrel. I do have a lathe, but I don't trust myself to do this type of work.
Again, thanks for all the great comments!
I also planned on using .44 Special or loading a heavy subsonic .44 mag load
Capt. Link., I thought about a reflex design after I received the barrel back from the gun smith. I should have had him turn the barrel down so I could make a reflex suppressor, but it's a little too late now. It took almost 2-months for the gun smith get time to cut and thread the barrel. I do have a lathe, but I don't trust myself to do this type of work.
Again, thanks for all the great comments!
Re: Advice for a Form 1 .44 Mag suppressor
Just do it yourself. If you mess it up, you can always buy another barrel.
Or you could do a reflex design that doesn't require barrel modification
Or you could do a reflex design that doesn't require barrel modification
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